Friday, January 27, 2012

Inteligent Design...ists... if complexity proves a creator, are all complex designs made by inteligence?

The most notable example that comes to mind is the termite colony, individual termites are hardly inteligent, and construct their colonies based upon relatively simple rules... And yet, these colonies tend to be endlessly complex, with any number of shafts, cellars, vents, chimneys, and chambers established to maintain an extremely narrow range of temperatures. (in any given day a termite colony often only differs by 1 or two degrees Celsius). Not to mention fungus gardens that many species of termites maintain.... With all this complexity (including a ventalation system humans would be completely incapable of reproducing not long ago), is there some inteligent power behind the wills of termites, or other fairly simple processes that form complex structures?...



I just never quite got how one could say complexity demands an design by a thinking being, so I'm wondering who actively designs unique complex structures like termite mounds.

Inteligent Design...ists... if complexity proves a creator, are all complex designs made by inteligence?
The christians will say god did it, while the rest of the answerers will either garnish their 2 points with a smarta$$ remark about the christians, or agree with you.



The best answer will be most likely the the one that points the obvious out in that nature didn't last this long by being stupid (kind of like bacteria that continues to consume... even with no brain! This isn't evidence of anything other than reaction to stimuli) or the one that sounds the funniest.



And to the wonderful person below me, that wasn't sarcasm you idiot. Read some of these questions and the answers they get- they're all the same...
Reply:Well, from a religious point of view, all intelligent beings were created by God(s). I mean this whole working Earth is amazing enough. Saying that this all happened under coincidence is just like putting a bunch of computer parts in a box, shaking it, and out comes a working computer. Simply amazing.
Reply:Wonderful point. We used to think that flies came from meat for goodness sake. When meat would sit outside flies would lay eggs on it and it was a common belief that flies were created by meat until some genius but a glass cover over the meat and no flies were discovered.

There's SO MUCH that we still don't understand. What we once found to be complex: the human organs, weather, and birth are now subjects that we have experts on. Who's to say that we haven't just now hit the tip of the iceberg and we're really the least evolved planet and race in the universe?
Reply:When God created the creatures of the earth he gave them the instincts to build,find food and survive. You might also compare it to an autistic savant...some of them know nothing about the world around them but can make the most amazing artwork or music or solve the most complex math problems.
Reply:There is no "who" in this. The termites design the termite mounds. Complexity illustrates natural selection. The ones that build the best-designed mounds survive disasters. These ones reproduce, and of these, the ones that build the best-designed mounds survive disasters even better. Over time, the termites have evolved into termites that build amazingly well-designed mounds, because they don't have any ancestors who couldn't.
Reply:That termites form these systems is neither an argument for or against design. You can say this enigma is due to evolution from dumb chance into insects that form complex systems or you can say that they were intelligently designed to perform that task. This enigma proves neither theory and both sides could spin it to their advantage. This is a very feeble argument for anything.
Reply:Duh! God Does!!!



The above is sarcasm.... What I want to know is, if complexity requires a creator, and man is extremely complex and requires a creator, then isnt our Creator even more complex than us? And, seeing as this is the logical progression, then that means that God requires a Creator as well? So, who created God?


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